Elizabeth definitely could’ve convinced Leon to help if she’d tried just a little harder… ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

it's not that kind of anime ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

But fanart... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

And doujinshi 🥴😳

I'd be disappointed tho if she tried that hard. She loved her husband yk.
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Her late husband has been dead for over a decade. It’s fine if she decided to move on at this point.

Yeah, but she could simply be into men her own age.

Her age and older. Women date across and up, not down.

They date and marry down too, though it's more atypical than what you describe. Half of the women in my own close bloodline(3 great-grandmothers, 1 grandmother, 2 aunts, 1 on each side) have married down age-wise(in the 1-5 years bracket) and 2 of my male cousins have married up. My own younger brother has dated mostly up...Meanwhile, I can't consider guys more than 2 years younger than myself...I was freaked out by my brother's college classmate hitting on me because back then I looked like I was younger than them.

A lot of us guys are fine with women older than us. Not everyone is the same. Please don't treat individuals as statistics. Everyone is unique even though they are similar in many ways.

The other person was treating women's dating and marrying habits as statistics, I contradicted them with something I've practically observed around myself. I'm aware of diversity in human behaviour and choices, and I can tell you what happened in my family wasn't even a result of cultural quirks where I live, it was simply the result of suitability in every other possible respect. Because age gaps, as long as they're not so big they'd put a whole generation between(it's a whole book to discuss why society views them as usually problematic and I'd rather not go there) are seen as inconsequential whichever way they go, both where I live and around the world as a whole.

statistically, yes, but not all.

But her husband died 15 years ago. Not to mention her "private lessons" with Leon when they were young.

Degenerate

yh like the MCes discussed, I don't think she wants to go further like that either so she didn't push hard because of that.
I'd be disappointed as well if she tried that hard 😭

If only, I wonder what else she could've done🤔😁😏. Though he screwed up saying that dumb shii about not only being the same age as her husband, but the same age WHEN HE DIED!! What a smooth talker he was, like wtf, did he want to instantly turn her vagina into the sahara desert smh?! That's definitely NOT how to get a woman or a romantic moment (love confession) and make her want to kiss you. Worst pickup line in all history, anime and real life lmao. He definitely has some good taste though.

Yeah, I have to agree with you. As soon as Heard that line, I was like "Dude!!!!"

yh that was such a horrible pick up line, and worst of all, it seems like he didn't realise how bad that line was 😂
The mood was kinda there when he got complimented for being all grown up and mastering magic, and he goes and says THAT 😂
Even if the mother was fakely going along with the flow, that line was enough to make her uncomfortable and want to leave LOL

I feel like there's an important reason as to why she didn't, as well as why she left her mask.

Well she didn't because of that horrible heart attack pickup line about not only being the same age as her husband, but the same age WHEN HE DIED!! Lmao that'd make anyone severe whatever moment that had, he ruined the mood and cockblocked himself smh. No doubt she was turned off INSTANTLY.

But leaving her mask was intentional, he'll have to see her again to return it so he can try again aha.

Agreed! That was pretty bad! XD XD XD Though as for the last part... You could say she was.....masking her true intentions.

Don't know about him but she could have definitely convinced me. 😏

I see Leon is one cultured fellow
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What kind of trap is that net thing?
Leon: "A cougar trap...and the prey is coming through the door"

She knew that herself lol.

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it's implied they get together later on, i like this because 15 years is long enough to get remarried

Implied how? I don't mind spoilers, just cover them from other people's eyes.

Or if Fiene actively shipped the two of them as much as Esyne did with Kikuru and her mother...

I like it how Fiene's mom changed Leon's life. There is also something I like about these two as a pair.

But damn, it really pains me to see Liese in such a bad state because of what the witch is doing. I was so glad when she finally stood against the witch - the whole scene was really well done, and it was quite impactful.
"I am Lieselotte Riefenstahl, she who has been blessed by a goddess to protect His Highness."
"Lieselotte has evolved from a tsundere to a tsundereally-pissed." - This was so amazing, it had me laughing so hard.

The scene in the carriage, where Sieg wanted to touch Liese's hair was so adorable - Liese is just too cute, and Sieg is an ultra chad: "I'll save disheveling your hair for another occasion."
Kobayashi's reaction when Liese finally realized that Sieg really does love her was me at that moment. It was so heartwarming, so cute, and so wholesome - I need insulin.

no one can beat a woman, if she get's tsundereally-pissed :D

That was indeed a very pleasant surprise, she woke up in her dream enough to finally give her the heave ho! *clap clap clap!*

That's what's so great about dreams, if you wake up/become lucid in them to a certain degree you can control them. I do this often and find fun and creative ways to flummox whatever is harrassing me during nightmares, or on the flip side you can also "improve" the circumstances during normal dreams. ;D

Anyways, the real winning trick would be to wake up from the nightmare we call "reality". XD

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I rarely ever get to dream (for me, sleeping is most of the time, you close your eyes, you don't even know when you truly fell asleep, then suddenly the alarm is beeping and hours have passed)

And when I do get to dream, is like i am randomly in a new reality.....
sometimes my dreams aren't even my dreams. Is like i am watching a weird tv show of different people, in which i might or not get to be the sudden protagonist

but you dream in every night. you just can't remember the dream (in your case most of the dreams). And while lucid dreams can really be fun (ofc i always dream of banana and having fun even if it is no lucid dream) you should just try to remember your dreams. Those times you remember your dreams, seem to be some great dreams too. Wish you a lot more good night rests with some great dream adventures wich you can remember the next morning

Well dreams can take all forms, you're not always in 1st person view, or even 3rd.....but setting that aside, reality is a dream as well, our alarm clock just hasn't gone off yet. ;D

mine are a truly bizarre thing where i am often in first person, but i understand that the perspective i am following is not me. there is often talking, but also no sound. my dreams are also so long that i often have very little that i tend to change besides light navigation changes in the plot. after all, when i'm dreaming i am perfectly aware that i'm dreaming, and it's pretty difficult to maintain an entire dream to the point where i can wake up, go to the bathroom and then fall back asleep into the same dream.

Liese now is in the state of "I might be a tsundere towards him, BUT ONLY I CAN DO THAT, anyone who dares insult him will face against me"

Sieg really went all out in the carriage

Wish her father never told her that bs, that really changed her and the prince and her relationship. He really traumatized her and severely contaminated her thoughts, which created this tsundere woman we see now smh. If only her father knew what he created, almost caused her death, and if everyone else knew about that it'd help others understand why she's the way she is. Making others possibly give her some slack and not just thinking wow she's just a natural b*tch aha.

Though she does need to quit all that annoying attitude grumpy stuff, gets old.

Well to be fair that’s normal this is medieval times

Arranged marriages were common and 95% of them are loveless theyre contracts nothing more nothing less

If anything he did good it would be worse had he not told her that imagine thinking about shared love only to get shat on when you realize they will never love you

If anything he was preparing her in case something like that happened

How bold of him 😉

Even the most princely of princes have those desires.

I'm glad Fiene's mother didn't use Leon's feelings to get her way, respected him and his feelings enough to not push the favor further.

LOL Sieg was so damn smooth when he said "I'll save disheveling your hair for another occasion.", that caught me way off guard. I am glad he said it though, it sent a clear message to her.

It was nice to see Liese being able to fight back against the Witch. I was concerned when she spoke to Sieg since her attitude was way more prickly than usual but I am glad Sieg was honest about his own feelings which gave birth to a really intimate moment between the two. The moment was so intimate Endou and Kobayashi just had to make their own too lol.

The thing that concerns me is the tone and manner in which Fiene's Mother said "I'm sorry..."
There's more to that, I'd be willing to bet she has something to do with the witch or at least the unfolding plight somehow.

I thin it’s cuz she knows she could have gotten him on their side with more pushing however she loved her previous husband too much where she’s fully aware had she gone further it would be nothing more than leading him on

Hence she’s apologizing that she couldn’t get Leon on their side

I was kinda nervous about Liese potentially wanting to break up with Sieg

It was hilarious how endou and kobayashi got to set up their own moment too

Happy birthday Kana Hanazawa (Kobayashi's VA)

and Mayumi too (from irregular at magic highschool)

she's always my favorite as Onodera.
unfortunately Nisekoi have a shitty main male character

she wasn't even the good onodera though

SHUT UP! she's the best! lol im kidding